For those keeping score ...
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- rjent
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For those keeping score ...
For those keeping score, my idler shaft on the PowerPro just puked a bearing (if you can call those tiny Chinese crap, bearings).
So so far I have replaced everything except the motor and the quill LOL.
I am trying to keep positive ... /:
So so far I have replaced everything except the motor and the quill LOL.
I am trying to keep positive ... /:
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
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Re: For those keeping score ...
rjent wrote:For those keeping score, my idler shaft on the PowerPro just puked a bearing (if you can call those tiny Chinese crap, bearings).
So so far I have replaced everything except the motor and the quill LOL.
I am trying to keep positive ... /:
OK, What size are these "tiny" bearings?
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Re: For those keeping score ...
So you are saying you want pictures ....JPG wrote:
OK, What size are these "tiny" bearings?
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: For those keeping score ...
rjent wrote: So so far I have replaced everything except the motor and the quill LOL.:
This is hardly encouraging. If I may ask, (1) how old is your Power Pro and (2) was it a DIY install or did you buy the Power Pro pre-installed by Shopsmith?
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
- rjent
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Re: For those keeping score ...
I bought a Mark 7 in the spring of 2014 and I love the function of the machine, I truly do. It was a factory build of course. I have used it a lot, but my Mark V's probably have longer run times (at 40 years old) as I use them running the belt sander, band saw(s), etc. The PP starts, does it's function, then is turned off.algale wrote:rjent wrote: So so far I have replaced everything except the motor and the quill LOL.:
This is hardly encouraging. If I may ask, (1) how old is your Power Pro and (2) was it a DIY install or did you buy the Power Pro pre-installed by Shopsmith?
Like I said, I am trying to stay positive. The one thing that I have contention with is their lack of support. I don't see this as normal. If it is, then shame on them if it isn't then shame on them.
JMHO
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
Re: For those keeping score ...
It would probably be worth taking a look at what size the bearings are. If they are some standard size, you might be able to pick up US made replacement bearings to install.
Last I looked, there are still some high quality bearings made in the US. If you can find some, they could be your solution.
Last I looked, there are still some high quality bearings made in the US. If you can find some, they could be your solution.
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Re: For those keeping score ...
I asked because that is the second time in recent posts that they have been mentioned as inadequate. Curious if smaller than current or MVII idler shaft bearing pairs.
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Goldie(Bought New SN 377425)/4" jointer/6" beltsander/12" planer/stripsander/bandsaw/powerstation /Scroll saw/Jig saw /Craftsman 10" ras/Craftsman 6" thicknessplaner/ Dayton10"tablesaw(restoredfromneighborstrashpile)/ Mark VII restoration in 'progress'/ 10E[/size](SN E3779) restoration in progress, a 510 on the back burner and a growing pile of items to be eventually returned to useful life. - aka Red Grange
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Re: For those keeping score ...
Are these not the same bearings as those in a Mark V with the new idler shaft/eccentric?JPG wrote:rjent wrote:For those keeping score, my idler shaft on the PowerPro just puked a bearing (if you can call those tiny Chinese crap, bearings).
So so far I have replaced everything except the motor and the quill LOL.
I am trying to keep positive ... /:
OK, What size are these "tiny" bearings?
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- rjent
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Re: For those keeping score ...
I will post a picture later today. My contention is that this is a shaft that will turn at 16000 RPM when the quill is turning at 10000. Ironically, I have not had to disassemble the bearings on the Mark V or VII as they are still in good shape. That kind of speed needs a solid bearing set. There is going to be some lateral loads because of the inaccurate method of "balancing the sound" when setting up the shaft in question. I have seen better bearings in dot matrix printers.JPG wrote:I asked because that is the second time in recent posts that they have been mentioned as inadequate. Curious if smaller than current or MVII idler shaft bearing pairs.
Just seems under designed. But what do I know ....
Dick
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
1965 Mark VII S/N 407684
1951 10 ER S/N ER 44570 -- Reborn 9/16/14
1950 10 ER S/N ER 33479 Reborn July 2016
1950 10 ER S/N ER 39671
1951 jigsaw X 2
1951 !0 ER #3 in rebuild
500, Jointer, Bsaw, Bsander, Planer
2014 Mark 7 W/Lift assist - 14 4" Jointer - DC3300
And a plethora of small stuff .....
"The trouble with quotes on the Internet is that you can never know if they are genuine." - Benjamin Franklin
- dusty
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Re: For those keeping score ...
I may be wrong but I am under the impression that the idler shaft bearings were upgraded on the new Mark V idler shaft in anticipation of the Mark 7. The difference between the shaft assembly for the Mark V and that for the Mark 7 is that the Mark 7 shaft is "shorter to accommodate the new pulley (without a sheave).rjent wrote:I will post a picture later today. My contention is that this is a shaft that will turn at 16000 RPM when the quill is turning at 10000. Ironically, I have not had to disassemble the bearings on the Mark V or VII as they are still in good shape. That kind of speed needs a solid bearing set. There is going to be some lateral loads because of the inaccurate method of "balancing the sound" when setting up the shaft in question. I have seen better bearings in dot matrix printers.JPG wrote:I asked because that is the second time in recent posts that they have been mentioned as inadequate. Curious if smaller than current or MVII idler shaft bearing pairs.
Just seems under designed. But what do I know ....
"Making Sawdust Safely"
Dusty
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