Simple project advice
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Re: Simple project advice
As others have pointed out, mitered picture frames are hard to get perfect corners. In addition to a well aligned saw, accurate miters require accurately milled (straight/square) stock. Good luck!
Gale's Law: The bigger the woodworking project, the less the mistakes show in any photo taken far enough away to show the entire project!
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Re: Simple project advice
Hey Karl;
Lots of good advice so far, but I thought I would chime in with something that has not been mentioned yet. The very best and easiest way to get accurate 45's on your miter gauge that I have found is the Miter Set.
https://www.shopsmith.com/product-page/ ... shopsmith
Set the miter gauge with the Miter Set after adding a longer fence to the face of the miter gauge and when making the cut push the miter gauge bar snug against the inside wall of the miter slot.
Having said that, I will also second the recommendation to take a look at the Shopsmith Miter Pro.
https://www.shopsmith.com/product-page/ ... o-assembly
It is a great tool. Be sure to follow the set up instructions that come with it and, as has been mentioned, make sure miter slot is parallel to blade and blade is perpendicular to table. I have used the Miter Pro to make dozens of frames that my wife has used in her art work. In fact, when she asked me a few years back if I could make a bunch of frames for one of her projects, I said "sure, but not without the Miter Pro." So this was a case when I had her blessing to add a tool to the shop!
Lots of good advice so far, but I thought I would chime in with something that has not been mentioned yet. The very best and easiest way to get accurate 45's on your miter gauge that I have found is the Miter Set.
https://www.shopsmith.com/product-page/ ... shopsmith
Set the miter gauge with the Miter Set after adding a longer fence to the face of the miter gauge and when making the cut push the miter gauge bar snug against the inside wall of the miter slot.
Having said that, I will also second the recommendation to take a look at the Shopsmith Miter Pro.
https://www.shopsmith.com/product-page/ ... o-assembly
It is a great tool. Be sure to follow the set up instructions that come with it and, as has been mentioned, make sure miter slot is parallel to blade and blade is perpendicular to table. I have used the Miter Pro to make dozens of frames that my wife has used in her art work. In fact, when she asked me a few years back if I could make a bunch of frames for one of her projects, I said "sure, but not without the Miter Pro." So this was a case when I had her blessing to add a tool to the shop!
Ed
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Re: Simple project advice
Hi guys. Thanks for your advice and my apologies for my delay in response. I guess I was making sawdust?!?!?
I ended up making a box out of the lousiest 1x6 you have ever seen for a practice ran. It was reasonably good for a first attempt. I learned a ton such as you MUST pre stain/seal pine to avoid splotchiness and use two band clamps to keep your joints tight while glueing instead of one clamp, which can pull the boards out of square. It lives on my workbench now, holding odds and ends.
I am 99% done with the larger poplar box I made for my daughter. It is both better made and took me less time to make than my first box. I will post a pic tomorrow when I take the clamps off. I wanted to make use a different joint, but to get the dimensions and grain I wanted I had to use a double rabbet corner joint again. I like the look of the wood but was surprised to learn poplar is quite a bit weaker than many hardwoods. It was easy to work with, reasonably priced and locally available, all plusses.
I worked on a dice tower tonight out of pine. It was an easy design and build but tedious, since I don't have a dado blade.
I looked at the SS miter goodies. Those look very helpful. I still want to make a picture frame, and if I can get it to look good, will make some frames for new art for my office. I bought an ornamental router bit for frames, but am a little intimidated by the size of the bit. I don’t want the router to get away from me and I don’t have a router table. I may make an outdoor cedar planter first. (another box!
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Again, many thanks for your help and advice,
Karl
I ended up making a box out of the lousiest 1x6 you have ever seen for a practice ran. It was reasonably good for a first attempt. I learned a ton such as you MUST pre stain/seal pine to avoid splotchiness and use two band clamps to keep your joints tight while glueing instead of one clamp, which can pull the boards out of square. It lives on my workbench now, holding odds and ends.
I am 99% done with the larger poplar box I made for my daughter. It is both better made and took me less time to make than my first box. I will post a pic tomorrow when I take the clamps off. I wanted to make use a different joint, but to get the dimensions and grain I wanted I had to use a double rabbet corner joint again. I like the look of the wood but was surprised to learn poplar is quite a bit weaker than many hardwoods. It was easy to work with, reasonably priced and locally available, all plusses.
I worked on a dice tower tonight out of pine. It was an easy design and build but tedious, since I don't have a dado blade.
I looked at the SS miter goodies. Those look very helpful. I still want to make a picture frame, and if I can get it to look good, will make some frames for new art for my office. I bought an ornamental router bit for frames, but am a little intimidated by the size of the bit. I don’t want the router to get away from me and I don’t have a router table. I may make an outdoor cedar planter first. (another box!

Again, many thanks for your help and advice,
Karl
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Re: Simple project advice
Another pic of my first box
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Total rookie - advice welcome
Inherited Shop Smith 510
Delta 1/3 HP combo belt/disc sander
10" folding Craftsman miter saw
Grizzly G0803Z 9" band saw
Bosch 2.25 HP router
Dewalt orbital sander + Ryobi mouse sander
Inherited Shop Smith 510
Delta 1/3 HP combo belt/disc sander
10" folding Craftsman miter saw
Grizzly G0803Z 9" band saw
Bosch 2.25 HP router
Dewalt orbital sander + Ryobi mouse sander