Dusty- Believe me, we appreciate your innovations! I just hate the thought that inventors like you don't directly benefit from sharing your creations, while at this very moment someone else may be copying your idea, producing cheap knock-offs off-shore, and supplying them for use on SS clones.
As for me, I have such a loooong time till retirement that I have more $ than shop time. So for me it's a lot easier to make a project or jig from a "kit" than it is to start from forum threads. (Maybe less fun, but faster and easier.)
greitz wrote:Dusty- Believe me, we appreciate your innovations! I just hate the thought that inventors like you don't directly benefit from sharing your creations, while at this very moment someone else may be copying your idea, producing cheap knock-offs off-shore, and supplying them for use on SS clones.
As for me, I have such a loooong time till retirement that I have more $ than shop time. So for me it's a lot easier to make a project or jig from a "kit" than it is to start from forum threads. (Maybe less fun, but faster and easier.)
Thanks for the inspirations!
Gary
Thanks for the kind words but what must be added is that I am just cheap. I try not to buy anything (especially for the wood shop) that I can make or scrounge. Quality is not always so good but if it works it works.
A few years ago I passed on a small metal lathe that a neighbor or my daughters was parting with. I really regret that today. There are all sorts of little metal thingys that I would make for the Shopsmith.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
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judaspre1982 wrote:
I believe this post contains some info/details of Dusty's latest table ext.
I'm sure the final product looks much different. https://forum.shopsmith.com/viewtopic.php?t=6537
Dusty , I noticed some changes to the aluminum mounting brackets in post #3 of this thread vs what's in the link above. It looks like the wholes in the 2in alum brackets no longer have the notches in them.
Also, what are the black items you used to connect the ext table to the back rails of the main table?--- seen in the thread link above
I'm not sure what keeps the ext table locked to the same plane of the main table. I know the old design had the angular support coming off the bottom of the table tube.
More info please:rolleyes:
Dave
The photo in post#3 shows the brackets for the first outfeed table I built. To attach that table I had to insert the rail through the holes in the aluminum bracket. If I had the Mark V setup and wanted to remove the table, I had to pull the rail and that got to be a pain.
In the later version, the holes have been changed to a hook. I can lift the outfeed table off without changing anything else.
The black items to which you refer are Extension Table Brackets (555997). I use them differently than Shopsmith had intended but they work great in conjunction with my outfeed table. Using these brackets eliminates the need for the removable, adjustable leg. The outfeed table is just cantilevered off the main table rail. The brackets do necessitate the use of a second rail and also complicates the mounting of an outfeed table somewhat in that the rail must be removed to remove the table. No problem for you guys who still have grip in your fingers.
Look close at the first picture in the referenced post and you will see the Extension Table Brackets and the fact that there is NO adjustable leg to mess with.
Up, down, tilt, level and back again all without leaving the front of the Mark V.
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I think I understand the confusion here. The outfeed table I was talking about was one where the support for the outfeed table was an adjustable pipe that connected to the bottom of the Main table support tube. It was connected to the outfeed table with a ball and socket (I think) that allowed the main table to tilted.
I think Nick first suggestted the plan and then Dusty made up a prototype patterned after Nicks. That is the outfeed table I'm talking about. The criticial part was the piece that slid up into the main table support tube and was locked in place with a cam. I thought Nick used a bicycle seat arrangement but I believe Dusty came up with a better way. I think the connection to the outfeed table was the connector SS supplies with their outfeed table. Again I though Dusty had found something better to use.
I'm not talking about Dusty's latest outfeed table where he uses aluminum supports to sort of calvalier the outfeed table from the main table.
The outfeed table that Nick demonstrated is really very well documented. You can find all of the required information, including video instructions, by viewing Sawdust Session #20.
My original table had many of the same features but were accomplished differently. Shopsmith does not sell this item (yet) and I got tired of waiting so I made my own. There is enough information in the video and on the blackboard (including PDFs of the various parts) to do this.
I deviated significantly in making mine but I have what I need. What I did has been documented with enough detail here on the forum for anyone to be able to do the same.
I encourage every one, for safety reasons, to utilize some sort of outfeed table (device) especially when working with longer materials.
"Making Sawdust Safely" Dusty
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Here is my "solution" for an outfeed table. It is not where as pretty as Dusty's. I needed something to use with the planer, and that requires the out feed table to move up and down. I could never get other designs to work well enough to use. After I made the decision to use an old SS table, I re-purposed a wood stand I salvaged from a school science lab remodel. This arrangement was a bit short for the table saw out feed. I added the slotted legs to raise the whole thing enough to allow the table saw to be used at full height and lowered for the planer.
I can't claim any new idea here, it is based on a comment someone made on the forum that the best out feed table for a SS is another SS. I have never found one I wanted, nor do I really have room for one. It is not as easy to use as I would like, but it is functional and serves both saw and planer. I am going to try it on the jointer as well. With the fence in place, it works fairly well with the table tilted. I will probably get some more finger friendly nuts for the bolts at the bottom, I will clean up the table and paint the rest of the wood. There is some space for some small storage under the table, I may put that in later. Total coast was $45 for the SS table I think.
If your re-purpose table had just been a little taller, you could have taken advantage of the carriage height adjustment so much easier.
However, we are not the only ones with re-purposed hardware. This was done by another forum member (Doc). I have not see a post from him in a long time.
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I needed something to use with the planer, and that requires the out feed table to move up and down. I could never get other designs to work well enough to use. After I made the decision to use an old SS table, I re-purposed a wood stand I salvaged from a school science lab remodel. This arrangement was a bit short for the table saw out feed. I added the slotted legs to raise the whole thing enough to allow the table saw to be used at full height and lowered for the planer. 